The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly Hood: Part III

We finally patched the ceiling around the ducting for our range hood so that it would stop raining insulation into our pots and pans. We actually did this three weeks ago, but are just now posting about it.  Sorry for the delay.  Travel for Mr. KaZoo and dissertation writing for the Mrs. have taken precedence of late.


  • tarp to protect kitchen things
  • plastic grocery bag to catch popcorn
  • metal putty knife
  • Fibatape wall/ceiling patches (one small, one large)
  • Fibatape
  • joint compound (mud)
  • plastic putty knifes of various sizes


  1. Scrape.  First, we scraped the ceiling around the holes so that our adhesive patches would stick.  We have a scraper specifically for this job, but it was too big to fit between the duct and the wall.  Instead, we just gently scraped the popcorn into a plastic grocery bag using a metal putty knife.
  2. Patch.  Then we attached these two patches, using the small patch for the smaller hole and the large patch for the larger hole.  You simply peel the patches from the waxy paper backing, position over your hole with the sticky-side towards the wall/ceiling, press, and seal the adhesive around the edges.  We cut the larger patch in half (approximately) to fit our irregularly shaped hole so that we could overlap the two rectangular pieces in a criss-cross to cover as much of the hole as possible.  Where the patches did not cover, we applied Fibatape.
  3. Putty.  Once the patches and tape were attached, we covered everything with joint compound, using the plastic putty knives to apply the mud.  Chris preferred using the small knife to apply the mud and the larger knife to smooth it.  The instructions on the patches said to cover them with a thin coat of mud (just enough to cover the texture), so we did a thinnish coat.  What counts as a thin coat? Who knows.
  4. Sand.  After it dried, we sanded it down per the patch instructions, but not so much that the patch and tape texture would be revealed.
  5. Rinse, repeat. Not really.  The instructions say to add another thin coat of mud and then sand it down again, so we did.

With the exposed duct + foil tape combo drawing the eye, we’re not really worried about people gaping at our one smooth patch of ceiling.  We probably won’t cover the duct until we’re ready for kitchen cabinets, but it’s not driving us as nuts as we thought it would.  We’ve got plans to redo the ceiling in our main living spaces completely (beam and plank is what we’re thinking right now), so we’re not planning to add texture to the smooth section to camouflage it. For our next phase of kitchen ceiling work, we’re thinking of something like this (images courtesy of Houzz):

Or this:

And for those following us on this journey on the range, a reminder of where we started:


And where we are now:



For now, we’re pronouncing the hood good.


Sand & Kleen: Not So Keen

In Friday morning’s post last week, we shared about the Sand & Kleen system that we were super pumped about trying to eliminate (or at least reduce) the amount of drywall dust coating everything in our house post-sanding.  We do a lot of sanding (all small projects, though), so we thought it would be a good investment (mainly because it was on sale).  On Friday night, in anticipation of some weekend warrior sanding action, we started assembling the Sand & Kleen system (yes, super hot date night that was). We thought the system we bought from Amazon was a fairly safe bet, considering the number of favorable reviews, the simplicity of the system, and the inclusion of multiple adapters to connect the filter bucket to your shop vac for power in case the one that should have fit our shop vac didn’t for some reason.


Wrong.  None of the adapters (or any combination thereof) would fit our regular old shop vac (one of the sizes should have fit based on the measurements provided in the product description, but it appeared to be off measurement-wise by a smidge), so this system obviously wasn’t going to work.  We considered ordering a replacement in case we just had a set of defective parts, but we were skeptical that a replacement would be any different if the parts are made in lots.  Plus, the number of mistakes in the instruction/assembly manual did not leave us feeling very confident, my personal favorites being two mistaken substitutions of “now” with the word “not” that drastically affected the meaning of each sentence.  For example, after you complete all steps of the assembly process, the manual says, “You are not ready to use the Sand & Kleen.” What do you mean? I’ve assembled the whole thing, so how am I not ready to use it?!  Presumably, they meant to say, “You are now ready to use the Sand & Kleen,” but they didn’t.  Simple mistakes like that may not concern some people, but if you don’t have someone proofreading your instruction manual, how can we trust the product quality control either?

Bottom line, we disassembled the Sand & Kleen, boxed it back up, and dropped it off Saturday morning at the UPS store to send it back to Amazon.  We normally love Amazon, but there’s been a few purchases of late that have arrived in bad shape–damaged, dysfunctional, and/or not as advertised.  Our last order of Muir Glen organic tomato sauce came with over 2/3 of the cans dented so badly that we couldn’t use our can opener on them. Hopefully this is not a sign of things to come.

So our review of the Sand & Kleen? We can’t really review its functionality, but in terms of its promised versatility and compatibility to work with your existing shop vac, let’s just say, we’re not so keen on the Sand & Kleen.  Hopefully it is something that other people can use successfully, as we think the idea is a great one.  As for us, we’ve had to revert back to the old, dusty way of sanding.  At least wet sanding helps somewhat.

Anyone else having a case of DIYer disappointment these days?